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Joined: 7/8/2006
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I am about to rebuilt my media server. The requirements for the rig limit my options quite a bit. HAS to be IGP, HDMI out preferred, minimum of 5 onboard SATA, and mounting holes around the CPU. I've settled on the ASUS P5E-VM.
I'll be using a Q6600 G0 stepping, and recycling 2x1Gb sticks of Corsair Valueram 667. (which runs smoothly at 805Mhz 4/4/4/12/2T) I plan to run the clock up, but I'm not expecting much out of the chipset/ram combo.
The question is on the cooling. Currently the rig is cooled by a Swiftech kit. Dual 120mm heatercore/pump/I forget the cpu block number. But it is not compatible with the Intel chipset, so I am faced with buying a new CPU WATER BLOCK or a HEATSINK/FAN. Same price either way. The rig runs caseless, with no real airflow to speak of over the chipset, so the heatsink/fan pushing air around could come in handy. But I don't know if the Big Typhoon can handle the cpu heat as well as a water rig.
I know some of you are using the TT cooler, so what are your thoughts? I know it's one of the best air coolers, but does it approach water cooling thermals?
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Joined: 7/4/2006
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You'll give up a few degrees by going with a Typhoon, maybe up to 5 if you replace the fan with a 88 or 100 cfm model. However, this doesn't always mean lower overclock. My guess will be the board will be the limiting factor WAY before you hit the cpu thermal limits.
I could be wrong, but I think you can buy a new adapter plate for the swiftech water block. I'd contact swiftech and find out first.
Gary
You can't fix dead.
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Yeah they make an adapter for it. But at a little over $30 after shipping, it really isn't worth doing.
After thinking about it I've decided to go with the Apogee. I just can't bring myself to buy another TT product. They always let me down.
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Joined: 7/9/2006
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I know what you mean about TT products. The big Typhoon was great in the C2D days, as it was affordable, and came with a 1300 rpm fan. It kept the C2D's cool, but as many reviews noted, once you got into the upper levels of overclocking, it would hit a ceiling that other quality vertical hsf's would keep cooling, especially with a faster fan.
I've been dissapointed with the BT's for the quads, and have started using Thermalright's Ultra 120E's with a 2K fan. They are not without problems, though. The great amount of heatpipes bolted to the base seems to warp the mating surface slightly. The few that I have had required lapping. Currently using one on my main rig, G0 @3650, droop modded P5B, 1.34 vcore, 48-52C read by CoreTemp.
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Joined: 7/9/2006
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Now you have me curious, because the board caught my eye, when looking for a htpc board. I noticed it had all your requiremnets, plus, since it's an Asus E version, I do believe it has 8 phase power regulation, which is a huge step up for a mATX board. I do have an Asus P31 mATX board, the P5K-VM and can confirm pci-e and pci locks when overclocking, which was the first pleasant suprise I found with the new mATX boards.
I think I'm in love. As soon as some invoices come in, I think a Penryn and a P5E-VM are going to find it's way to my house.
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So far I really like the board, and that is saying a lot given my recent bad run of Asus products. I think I mentioned to you already, the Q6600 it's running is clocking higher than the qX6700 in my primary rig, which is sitting in a $300 motherboard. (Oh and the water cooling was definitely the way to go, 3.4Ghz at 37C load!)
But you might read through the comments on the board, I THOUGHT I saw someone post that it wasn't compatible with the 45s without a bios update, which obviously requires a compatible CPU to do. Then again I could be wrong, I looked at so many boards that day my eyes were almost bleeding.
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Joined: 7/9/2006
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Asus shows support for the new penryns coming out, in bios 0405, released in January. I may have been mistaken about the 8 phase, but it certainly looks beefier than their previous versions. Silent PC Review - "Finally, if you are an enthusiast who has been longing for a socket-775 mATX board with the overclocking prowess of a premium ATX board, your wait is officially over."
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Then yeah that is the board I was thinking of. A couple people complained that the shipping bios had to be updated to support the new cores, but that requires a recognizable CPU.
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Spray that board with a couple coats of TV Tuner Anti-static and drop it in a bathtub of cold water. We don' need no steenken' radiator, pumps and cooling block... [EMO]Cool Gallery/cool-smiley-008.gif[/EMO]
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