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 7/29/2006 5:12:50 PM
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me and overclocking
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As most of you know, The one thing I do well is overclock computers.

So, go ahead and ask me questions and I will try to answer

 
 7/29/2006 5:47:31 PM
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Re: me and overclocking
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Welcome aboard, NutCase!  Glad to have your expertise here on the boards.
Gary
You can't fix dead.
 7/29/2006 6:22:31 PM
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Re: me and overclocking
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Hey NutCase, I'm glad to see you here!  Give it some time, I have a feeling this will be a busy forum.  


It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues
 7/30/2006 3:09:45 AM
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Re: me and overclocking
 (N/A) Modified By paul on 7/30/2006 1:43:27 PM)
Cool. maybe we can get some real answers here.... At DSLR, it seemed like a waste of time trying to ask a question at times.

So anyway, I'll bite. There are quite a few of us running D's on Seti. The favored board seems to be the P5WD2 series. Xaak's farm uses them extensively, and he has those running well. SO I'll ask the two of you for your opinions.... I have several WD2 series, the basic and Premium crunching for me, but they seem to drive me up the wall getting them OC'ed. For that reason, I've been picking up quite a few Abit AW8's in the $75 range. Saves me a ton of money, and I feel comfy with the Award bios over AMI. Only issue I have a problem with on the AW8's is that it reports cpu temps roughly 20-25C lower than others.

Back to the WD2's.... my main issue is bios hanging. Like this last one I bought from extremekid off dslr, a 930, and P5WD2. Put it on the bench, stock bios settings, it booted fine. As soon as I made any changes, saved, and rebooted, I'd get the overclocking failed bios error message. The changes made were basic preferences, like displaying the post screen and boot order. This is the same trouble I had with the WD2 Premium in my main rig.

Now first let me preface this that for my blade use only, I typically use an old PATA drive and really old PCI gpu for D crunchers. However, I've tried setting IDE settings stock, configged them for PATA only, tried checking for PCI gpu first over PCI-E gpu, and no setting seems to work reliably. I have this one running 3750, stock vcore, but it takes me several starts to get it to POST, either at all or "overclock error" free. Any suggestions to that problem? I did update the bios from 0301 to 0501 yesterday...

Second issue with this WD2 is that, with vcore, the first few steps over stock vcore, say, 1.325 or 1.350 takes, but in hardware monitor it shows, 1.42, and the cpu runs hot, even with a Big Typhoon, and faster Antec 120MM fan. I haven't tried any vcore setting over, say, 1.375 to see if the trend continues....

Third issue is with the AI utility. The fan that came with the Big Typhoon reports rpm correctly, 1350 rpm or so, but the faster adjustable Antec, rated 2000 rpm does not., it's showing 90,000rpm right now. There is some setting for fans in bios, I've toggled them all to see if it makes a difference, but it doesn't.

Thanks for any insights ya'll may have on this.....

Paul
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 7/31/2006 7:00:04 AM
User is offlinenutcase
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Re: me and overclocking
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Paul,

Asus Mobo's will drive you Crazy when Overclocking

Mainly because Asus set's the Unseen settings Too tight. I normally will drop my memory down to a 1:1 ratio, then start overclocking the cpu. after that, I start playing with the memory.

The P5WD2 has some droop problems and it will be higher than the setting. But watch it under Full Load and it will probably be about the same as what you set it at. My P5LD2 Deluxe will show 1.36V at idle and drop to 1.26V when under full load

 
 7/31/2006 1:59:06 PM
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Re: me and overclocking
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I got one. I have a abit IS7E with p4 3.0 prescott and 4 sticks of bh5, if I change the memory from 1:1 to anything else will I lose gaming performance? Oh, I would change the memory timings only to try and get a higher clock.
 8/2/2006 1:36:44 AM
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Re: me and overclocking
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 MikeC wrote
I got one. I have a abit IS7E with p4 3.0 prescott and 4 sticks of bh5, if I change the memory from 1:1 to anything else will I lose gaming performance? Oh, I would change the memory timings only to try and get a higher clock.
Mike, IIRC, you're running a fsb of around 215 with your bh-5 2,2,2,6 timings. If you raise your timings to 3,3,3,6, you'd need to hit the 250-260fsb level to achieve the same memory performance. With the IS7-E, you're limited to a low vmem setting, so I'd think the question would be can the memory do it, and will your Prescott scale that high with the cooling you currently have. I have 2 sticks of 512 that will run 250-260 at 3,3,3,8 timings if you want to trade them out.
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 8/2/2006 1:39:18 AM
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Re: me and overclocking
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 nutcase wrote
Asus Mobo's will drive you Crazy when Overclocking

Mainly because Asus set's the Unseen settings Too tight. I normally will drop my memory down to a 1:1 ratio, then start overclocking the cpu. after that, I start playing with the memory.

The P5WD2 has some droop problems and it will be higher than the setting. But watch it under Full Load and it will probably be about the same as what you set it at. My P5LD2 Deluxe will show 1.36V at idle and drop to 1.26V when under full load

Cool, thanks, that explains a lot. I do watch the droop, and cipher it into the overall scheme of things. All of my rigs are under full load all the time!

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 8/2/2006 4:32:53 AM
User is offlinenutcase
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Re: me and overclocking
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Oh another thing I am having trouble with..

for some reason, some LGA775 cpu's will not sit Flat in the socket and the HSF will not make full contact. My PD950 is like that and it Idle's at 50C even with Water cooling. still figuring out how to fix this one.

 
 8/2/2006 5:29:04 AM
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Re: me and overclocking
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 nutcase wrote

Oh another thing I am having trouble with..

for some reason, some LGA775 cpu's will not sit Flat in the socket and the HSF will not make full contact. My PD950 is like that and it Idle's at 50C even with Water cooling. still figuring out how to fix this one.

 



I remember Paul complaining about that very thing.

I can only please one person a day. Today is not your day... tomorrow isn't looking too good either.
 8/2/2006 11:52:57 AM
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Re: me and overclocking
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Thanks I will give it a try.
 8/19/2006 3:13:44 PM
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Re: me and overclocking
 (United States) Modified By anonymous on 8/19/2006 5:15:03 PM)
 nutcase wrote

Oh another thing I am having trouble with..

for some reason, some LGA775 cpu's will not sit Flat in the socket and the HSF will not make full contact.

My PD950 is like that and it Idle's at 50C even with Water cooling. still figuring out how to fix this one.

 

My pentD 950 I thought was running hot also so I went to Intels web site I used trhe processor info tool .

The specs were listed and it seems the 950 has a higher Temperature rating were the other PentDs are topped out at 64c the 950 has a top temp of 68.9c.

So it looks like the Chip runs hotter and higher temps are normal.

Hank
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