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 6/27/2009 11:08 AM
 
Is it normal for the CUDA applications to slow your computer right down?  I find that when I am running CUDA work units, my computer becomes very slow and unresponsive.   I can run optimized units on all four cores without any problems, but shortly after a CUDA unit starts, my system hangs.  It is fine once I put BOINC to sleep for a bit so I can finish what I was doing.

I am thinking it could either be a power issue or more than likely a heat issue.  Anyone else have this happen to them?

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 6/27/2009 11:14 AM
 
I'm no cuda guy, but I thought that happened when VLAR WU's ran on cuda and the optimization package helped with that? Hopefully someone who knows cuda will chime in.

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 7/3/2009 12:07 AM
 
Short answer:
This is a classic problem with CUDA. It has issues crunching extreme angles, especially VLAR units.
Assuming you have installed one of the Lunatics optimized clients, give this perl script a try:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/12-gpu-crunching/cpu-gpu-rebranding-perl-script.0.html
It allows you to assign VLAR and VHAR wu's to the cpu, and medium angle wu's to the GPU. In theory that should circumvent the problem altogether.
I haven't used the script myself yet, so you'll have to post questions in that forum.

Long answer:
Crunching with CUDA is a work in progress. In general, the problems have diminished with the release of newer optimized apps, improved nvidia drivers, and better CUDA libraries. The severity of the problem varies from user to user. The early 8600/8800 series of video cards seem to suffer the most, possibly because they don't support all of the CUDA math functions.

I have an 8800GTS 640 that I bought cheaply from a friend. It was a nightmare trying to run CUDA in the early days. Not only slowdowns like you've seen, but also nvidia driver crashes and VLAR wu's that aborted with errors.

In May I did find a configuration that ran well, and I intended to share it with you. However, while I was preparing my answer, I discovered that my setup is considered obsolete. In fact, the client I'm running has been withdrawn, replaced by the final beta apps at Lunatics. I'm mulling over whether I should update or simply stick with what works. No doubt the newer client has important optimizations. On the other hand, I'd rather die than go through another round of problems.



"All really intelligent people should be cremated for reasons of public safety" -- The Amazing Screw-On Head

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 7/3/2009 12:37 AM
 
Re: CUDA slowing down system  (United States)
Sheesh it looks like you already have the VLAR killer onboard.  So that isnt a problem.  What may be the problem is that you are using an 8600 card.  This is at the low end of the CUDA range.  You many want to have CUDA go into standby (if thats possible) while you're active on your computer



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 7/3/2009 10:10 AM
 
Re: CUDA slowing down system  (United States)
 Modified By paul  on 7/3/2009 10:10:48 AM
skildude wrote
Sheesh it looks like you already have the VLAR killer onboard.  So that isnt a problem.  What may be the problem is that you are using an 8600 card.  This is at the low end of the CUDA range.  You many want to have CUDA go into standby (if thats possible) while you're active on your computer

Certainly is. Boinc Manager/Advanced/Preferences/Computing Allowed: uncheck Use GPU while computer is in use
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 7/3/2009 4:14 PM
 
 Modified By Kinguni  on 7/3/2009 9:54:55 PM
Well, I may not have helped much, but at least I seem to have sparked some interest in this thread.

Looking further through the thread I mentioned, Marius has been working on an app that expands on Raistmer`s perl script that rebadges units. ReSchedule by default moves V*AR wu`s to the cpu for more efficient crunching, but it can also move a percentage of wu`s from gpu to cpu and the reverse at your whim. The nicest feature is that it will run scans automatically every X hours. And it supports x64 systems.

See here: http://lunatics.kwsn.net/12-gpu-crunching/cpu-gpu-rebranding-perl-script.msg18817.html#msg18817

It doesn`t work for me, due to the peculiarities of my obsolete but stable CUDA setup that I`m afraid to touch (I get only 603 units), but I can imagine that it might increase efficiency on modern configurations. Even 5%-10% could make a big difference to the team RAC.

"All really intelligent people should be cremated for reasons of public safety" -- The Amazing Screw-On Head

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 7/3/2009 9:56 PM
 
Made your link clickable Mike.

Read about that app on the Berkeley boards. People seem to like it.

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