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 Super charged the Engine in this one..
 
 4/11/2007 1:01:50 PM
User is offlineSparky Jim
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Super charged the Engine in this one..
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A new P4D 3400/4M/800 arrived today, so instead of bunging it one of my boards for crunchers, I have put it in this machine to crunch SETI...the original processor was a P4HT 3000/1M/800, so there will be a jump in my output again...especially as the P4HT3000/1M/800 will be going into another board with 1GB of DDR2 667 and a rather snazy HDD I happened to have laying about..so that will give me even more output.. The Farm is growing again...
Blooming Sig broke..will repair when able!!
 4/11/2007 1:11:12 PM
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Re: Super charged the Engine in this one..
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Go, go, Jim. Crunch on!
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 4/11/2007 2:10:03 PM
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Re: Super charged the Engine in this one..
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That's fantastic!  We do need more SETI boxes!

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 4/11/2007 2:25:15 PM
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Crunch On!
 4/11/2007 8:51:47 PM
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Wow...with the P4HT3000/1m/800 installed, this machine took 3hrs and 7 mins as an average to complete a unit, I have just looked at the log for the first 12 hours of crunching, and this is now doing it in 1hr 42 mins..literally 100% faster..damn that cache makes a massive difference..So this machine is now good for completing some 30 work units a day now.....amazing...even more so as I have another 3400/4M/800 on it's way to swap out with another of my P4HT3000/1M/800 based machines...That is a far bigger jump that I realised I would get...
Blooming Sig broke..will repair when able!!
 4/11/2007 9:43:09 PM
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Re: Super charged the Engine in this one..
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You have to remember that the HT isn't really 2 cores like the D's are.  You get about a 30% improvement using hyperthreading vs. not using it, but there's no substitiute for multiple cores.  The cache, the second core, and the higher clock speed all conspire to give you that boost.  Dropping the D in where the HT processor was before is somewhere between adding a supercharger and adding a nitro system .

Congrats on the rising rac!


Gary
You can't fix dead.
 4/13/2007 2:02:08 PM
User is offlineSparky Jim
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Yeah I realise that Xaak, but I was surprised by the difference in output.

I am curious though, if the P4D is so good, why did the come out with the Conroe, as in the specs I see no difference other than manufacturing technique. Checking SETI stats the P4D seems to have the dge, at the moment, although i suspect that this is due to the higher frequency, once the Conroes achieve the 3.2 to 3.4GHz mark of the P4D I think the Conroe will blow them out of the water looking at the stats.


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 4/13/2007 2:12:08 PM
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 Sparky Jim wrote

Yeah I realise that Xaak, but I was surprised by the difference in output.

I am curious though, if the P4D is so good, why did the come out with the Conroe, as in the specs I see no difference other than manufacturing technique.



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 4/13/2007 3:07:47 PM
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Re: Super charged the Engine in this one..
 (N/A) Modified By paul  on 4/13/2007 5:09:26 PM)
 Sparky Jim wrote

Checking SETI stats the P4D seems to have the dge, at the moment, although i suspect that this is due to the higher frequency, once the Conroes achieve the 3.2 to 3.4GHz mark of the P4D I think the Conroe will blow them out of the water looking at the stats.

They already do. Running optimized apps, and both series overclocked to the maximum I can run them stable with little vcore adjustment (D's at 4000Mhz, C2D's at 3400 Mhz), my C2D's are doing 2440 RAC vs. the D's 1800, and with half the current draw. (230 watts vs. 125 watts)

The Pentium 4 NetBurst architecture allowed the chips to achieve higher speeds, with good memory bandwidth, at the cost of IPC's, or in real world concerns, math calcs. The Core lineup is a revamped version of intel's Israeli division that developed the Centrino laptop cpu series. They took the old p3 design, tweaked it for higher scaling and lower power use, and ended up being a very powerful chip for math calcs.

Intel's Prescott design was the fall of the P4 lineup, as it was merely a patch to get more clock speed out of that design, with the huge drawback of power consumption. Those are some power hungry cpus. Since chip makers have more or less hit a ceiling with current fab techniques, the trend is for more cores on die for more cpu pwer, rather than higher clock speeds.

Given the power consumption of the D's, and the impending price drop of intel's C2D lineup, I'm in the process of selling off my D's and will rebuild with C2D's in a few weeks.

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 4/14/2007 3:22:32 PM
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Paul, I have looked at the figures with and without the optimised apps, and to be honest the production rate difference is not that much different and so I don't think that the justification is there for the extra cost of comparable processors..
Blooming Sig broke..will repair when able!!
 4/15/2007 3:03:51 AM
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Re: Super charged the Engine in this one..
 (N/A) Modified By paul  on 4/15/2007 5:21:39 AM)
I'm seeing a 30% increase in crunchpower, given the way I build and run my rigs. Both D's and C2D's run with a GB of good, fast ddr2 memory, and are run on quality boards, able to achieve high overclocks 24/7 completely stable. My electricity costs are very high, so the biggest benefit to me is the reduced power consumption, which is worth the switch by itself, for me.

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